Merle Mansfield, Programme Director of the Zero Dropout Campaign, speaks to SAfm host Jon Gericke about the need for improved learner-level data collection and monitoring. This is because high-quality administrative data can be used to track the overall health and functioning of our schooling system, learner progress, grade repetition and dropout. Furthermore, learner-level data can help educators take pre-emptive measures to prevent dropout, and ‘big picture’ data at a country level can inform better policy decisions.